THE BIGGEST DAMN LIE: Romney Says He Does Not Favor A $5 Billion Tax Cut; Half Of Green Businesses Invested In By The Obama Admin Have Gone Under; Romney Health Care Plan Covers Preexisting Conditions (VIDEO) | Roland Martin Reports

THE BIGGEST DAMN LIE: Romney Says He Does Not Favor A $5 Billion Tax Cut; Half Of Green Businesses Invested In By The Obama Admin Have Gone Under; Romney Health Care Plan Covers Preexisting Conditions (VIDEO)

This week’s winner of The Biggest Damn Lie is GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney.

During the first presidential debate, Mitt Romney said that he is not in favor of a $5 billion tax cut. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center concluded that Mitt Romney’s tax plan would cost $4.8 trillion over ten years.

Plus, Romney stated that half of the green business that the government invested in have gone out of business. According to Wonkblog and “The Washington Post” and other fact checkers, not half of them have gone out of business. Less than 1 percent have gone out of business. Even the Romney campaign had to clean this one up on Thursday morning after the debate, saying he was talking about a particular green energy program — not the whole $90 billion.

Mitt Romney also stated that his health care plan covers preexisting conditions. Romney’s campaign had to clarify his statement. According to top advisor Eric Fehrnstrom, with respect to preexisting conditions, what Gov. Romney has said is for those with continuous coverage he will continue to make sure that their – that they receive their coverage.

MR. MARTIN:  Folks, time for “The Biggest Damn Lie.”

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MR. MARTIN:  The lies and half-truths were flying Wednesday night in the debate.  The Obama campaign is trying to salvage their very poor debate performance by changing the story to, “Okay. Mitt may have won” – that’s the performance part – “but that’s because he lied.”  Less than 24 hours after the debate was over, the Obama campaign released this.

[BEGIN VIDEO CLIP.]

MR. ROMNEY:  I’m not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut.  That’s not my plan.

MS. ANDREA MITCHELL:  The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center concluded that Mitt Romney’s tax plan would cost $4.8 trillion over ten years.

VOICEOVER:  Why won’t Romney level with us about his tax plan, which gives the wealthy huge, new breaks?  Because according to experts, he’d have to raise taxes on the middle class or increase the deficit to pay for it.  If we can’t trust him here [shot of Mr. Romney behind a podium as a candidate], how could we ever trust him here [shot of the Oval Office]?

[END OF VIDEO CLIP.]

MR. MARTIN:  Two more Mitt Romney lies.

[BEGIN VIDEO CLIP.]

MR. ROMNEY:  You put $90 billion into – into green jobs, and – and these businesses – many of them have gone out of business.  I think about half of them – of the ones that ’ve been invested in – have gone out of business.

[END OF VIDEO CLIP.]

MR. MARTIN:  According to Wonkblog and “The Washington Post” and other fact checkers, not half of them have gone out of business.  Less than 1 percent have gone out of business.  Even the Romney campaign had to clean this one up on Thursday morning after the debate, saying he was talking about a particular green energy program – not the whole $90 billion.

Okay.  But even in that program, only 12 percent have gone out of business.  As Politico.com wrote, “As Politico and other fact-checkers quickly pointed out, Romney’s numbers from the first presidential debate are not correct.  Not even close.”

And then there was healthcare, where Romney said this about preexisting conditions.

[BEGIN VIDEO CLIP.]

MR. ROMNEY:  I do have a plan that deals with people with preexisting conditions.  That’s part of my healthcare plan.

[END OF VIDEO CLIP.]

MR. MARTIN:  How do we know that’s a lie?  Because Romney’s own campaign, within an hour of the debate, had to clarify his statement.  According to top advisor Eric Fehrnstrom, with respect to preexisting conditions, what Gov. Romney has said is for those with continuous coverage he will continue to make sure that their – that they receive their coverage.

Again, here’s what Romney said.

[BEGIN VIDEO CLIP.]

MR. ROMNEY:  I do have a plan that deals with people with preexisting conditions.  That’s part of my healthcare plan.

[END OF VIDEO CLIP.]

MR. MARTIN:  No mention of the need for continuous coverage.

And how many would not have – have coverage for preexisting conditions without Obamacare?  Tens of millions.  Some estimate – some estimates go as high as 89 million.

What’s important here is that Romney has made this statement about preexisting conditions many times, and this is the second time his campaign staff has – has had to say, “Never mind.”

So, Mitt Romney, even though you weren’t the only one at the debate massaging the facts, you certainly brought this week’s …

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MR. MARTIN:  So, I[’ve] got to ask the panel, is this headline correct, from the “New York” magazine:  “ROMNEY’S SUCCESSFUL DEBATE PLAN:  LYING”?

MR. WILLIAMS:  Absol- — yes!  [Chuckles.]

[LAUGHTER.]

MR. WILLIAMS:  Well, I mean it – it – the – the whole performance, and the hosannas they got afterwards, reminds me of having to play a basketball game without having to dribble.  Okay?  You can just walk the ball down the court and shoot.  That’s not conforming to the rules, and it’s misleading the public.  And as Obama said today, when your own fact checkers in your own campaign have to walk stuff back – that’s evidence that you went perhaps a little too far.

MR. MADISON:  [A] “Sun Times” editorial the day after said, “Romney wins on style.  Obama wins on substance,” and that was the editorial headline.

But something else, too.  Those green jobs – 45 of those green jobs actually outperformed in stock the stock market.  I mean their stock increased on the stock market and outperformed most stocks.  I mean it – it – it’s – it was one – and I think that might’ve been – [chuckles] – part of Obama’s problem.  When you’re prepped, you know what the answers are, because you’ve looked at the tapes from the pr- — Republican primary.  So, you’ve got a list of answers.  Then you get to the debate, and you find out, “Wait a minute.  These aren’t even the answers he gave six months ago.”

MS. GOFF:  To – to Joe’s point, it would be like – the equivalent of showing up at a debate where someone said, “Mr. President, you’re debating Republican Mitt Romney,” and Romney gets there, and the first opening line is, “You know, I’m actually a Democrat, and I thought about it and” – “and I agree a lot with what the President” – there’s no way to debate

MR. WILLIAMS:  Yeah.  “Wait.”

MS. GOFF:  — that!

MR. WILLIAMS:  “What?”

MS. GOFF:  There’s – there’s –

MR. WILLIAMS:  “What just happened?”

MS. GOFF:  — no – there’s –

MS. SIMMONS:  No.

MS. GOFF:  — no –

MS. SIMMONS:  No, there’s a way.

MS. GOFF:  — there’s no – no, there –

MS. SIMMONS:  There’s a way.

MS. GOFF:  — [crosstalk] –

MS. SIMMONS:  Y- — there’s a way to debate that.

MS. GOFF:  — [crosstalk] –

MS. SIMMONS:  Sure – sure –

MS. GOFF:  — [crosstalk] –

MS. SIMMONS:  — the- — sure, there’s a way to debate that, and the President has to do it every time he calls his cabinet advisors into the White House to discuss any gish- — given issue it is.

The problem –

MS. GOFF:  Bu- — [chuckles] –

MS. SIMMONS:  — is that my man Mitt got the numbers wrong, and

MS. GOFF:  — ’cause he lied.  [Chuckles.]

MS. SIMMONS:  — the President –

[CHUCKLING.]

MR. WILLIAMS:  Yeah.

MS. SIMMONS:  — the President –

MS. GOFF:  He lied.

MS. SIMMONS:  — didn’t stand up and challenge him.

MS. GOFF:  ’Cause he – ’cause he – [crosstalk] –

MS. SIMMONS:  That was the –

MR. MADISON:  You mean Mitt –

[CROSSTALK.]

MS. SIMMONS:  No!  No, no –

MR. MADISON:  — is a liar?

MS. GOFF:  ’Cause he lied.

MS. SIMMONS:  — no, no.

MR. MADISON:  Yes, yes!

[CROSSTALK.]

MS. SIMMONS:  No, I’m not saying

MS. GOFF:  [Crosstalk] –

MS. SIMMONS:  — he’s not a liar!

MR. MADISON:  Oh!

MS. SIMMONS:  I didn’t say –

MS. GOFF:  Okay.

MR. MADISON:  Okay.  I –

MS. GOFF:  Just making sure –

MS. SIMMONS:  — he didn’t lie.

MR. MADISON:  — [crosstalk] –

MS. GOFF:  — we’re just making –

MS. SIMMONS:  I’m not –

MS. GOFF:  — sure!

MS. SIMMONS:  — saying he didn’t lie.  What I said –

MR. MARTIN:  “No, no, no” –

MS. SIMMONS:  — was –

MR. MARTIN:  — “no, no”?

MS. SIMMONS:  — he got the numbers –

MR. MARTIN:  Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!

[LAUGHTER.]

MS. SIMMONS:  — he got the numbers wrong –

MR. MARTIN:  Wasn’t that –

MS. SIMMONS:  — and my president –

MS. GOFF:  Gotcha.

MR. MARTIN:  [Chuckles.]

MS. SIMMONS:  — didn’t –

MS. GOFF:  Yes.

MS. SIMMONS:  — stand up and challenge him on it.  Neither side ca- — is worth laughing or grinning over on that –

MS. GOFF:  Look.

MS. SIMMONS:  — angle.

MS. GOFF:  Look.  The reality is –

MS. SIMMONS:  That’s disappointing.

MS. GOFF:  — the reality is –

MS. SIMMONS:  It might not –

MS. GOFF:  — it’s – it’s – it’s –

MS. SIMMONS:  — be embarrassing, but –

MS. GOFF:  — the lead –

MS. SIMMONS:  — it’s disappointing.

MS. GOFF:  — the lead conservative talking point for the last year – ’cause I’ve heard it every time I’ve gone on a conservative talk radio show or a TV show – is that no president’s been reelected as long as unemployment is over 8 percent.  Well, now it’s under 8 percent, and that’s part of why –

MR. MADISON:  Yeah.

MS. GOFF:  — major conservatives like –

MS. SIMMONS:  Who –

MS. GOFF:  — Jack Welch and –

MS. SIMMONS:  — but ours isn’t!

MS. GOFF:  — everyone else is freaking out.

MS. SIMMONS:  Ours isn’t!

MS. GOFF:  Across the country it is –

MS. SIMMONS:  I’m not talking a- —

MS. GOFF:  — now –

MS. SIMMONS:  — forget national!  I’m talking –

MS. GOFF:  — I’m not going to “forget” –

MS. SIMMONS:  — about Black –

MS. GOFF:  — “national.”

MS. SIMMONS:  — [crosstalk].

MS. GOFF:  That’s kind of –

MR. MARTIN:  [Crosstalk] – ho- —

MS. GOFF:  — an important statistic.

MS. SIMMONS:  Black Americans –

MR. MARTIN:  — one second.  One second.  But – but –

MS. SIMMONS:  — Hispanic –

MR. MARTIN:  — he- —

MS. SIMMONS:  — Americans –

MR. MARTIN:  — I gotcha, but, to Keli’s p- —

MS. SIMMONS:  — even if you –

MR. MARTIN:  — no, no.

MS. SIMMONS:  — just look at Black –

MR. MARTIN:  Bu- —

MS. SIMMONS:  — women

MR. MARTIN:  — b- — but – hold on, Deborah.  But, to Keli’s point, when conservatives are saying  “over a percent,” they are

MS. SIMMONS:  Forget that.

MR. MARTIN:  — spea- —

MS. SIMMONS:  Conservatives –

MR. MARTIN:  — no, hold on.  N- —

MS. SIMMONS:  — aren’t the only people –

MS. GOFF:  But how can I –

MS. SIMMONS:  — who vote –

MS. GOFF:  — forget it?

MR. MARTIN:  — no, no, no –

MS. SIMMONS:  — for president!

MR. MARTIN:  — no, no, no.  Follow me here.  What I’m saying – what – no, no.  To her –

MS. SIMMONS:  If you –

MR. MARTIN:  — point – ho- — Deborah, hold on.  Breathe.  To – to –

MS. SIMMONS:  — no, I am breathing.

MR. MARTIN:  — but her point –

MS. SIMMONS:  But I –

MR. MARTIN:  — to her point, conservatives have used the argument that –

MS. GOFF:  Yes!

MR. MARTIN:  — as long as overall unemployment –

MS. GOFF:  Yes.

MR. MARTIN:  — is above a percent, they figure, “We are going to win this.”

MS. SIMMONS:  Yes.

MR. WILLIAMS:  And now that argument is –

MR. MARTIN:  And now [that] it’s –

MR. WILLIAMS:  — off the table.

MS. GOFF:  Yes.

MR. MARTIN:  — under, now their issue’s –

MS. SIMMONS:  So, the argument is off the table now!

MR. MARTIN:  So, now –

MS. GOFF:  That’s what I’m saying.

MS. SIMMONS:  [Crosstalk] –

MR. MARTIN:  — so, now they[’ve] got to –

MS. SIMMONS:  — that’s my –

MR. MARTIN:  — figure something out for the last 30-some-odd days.

And I have no time.  I got to go.

[LAUGHTER.]

MR. MARTIN:  “No, no.”  “Yes, yes.”  I gotta go.

MS. SIMMONS:  “No, no” –

MR. MARTIN:  Keli – [chuckles] –

MS. SIMMONS:  — “yes, yes.”

MR. MARTIN:  — Deborah, Joe, Joe, nice choir outfits.  Appreciate it.