Sonia Sotomayor Delivers Blistering Dissent Against Affirmative Action Ban

Source: Chris Gentilviso / The Huffington Post

The Supreme Court upheld Michigan’s ban on affirmative action Tuesday, but not without a blistering dissent from Justice Sonia Sotomayor.

Sotomayor said the decision infringed upon groups’ rights by allowing Michigan voters to change “the basic rules of the political process … in a manner that uniquely disadvantaged racial minorities.”

“In my colleagues’ view, examining the racial impact of legislation only perpetuates racial discrimination,” Sotomayor added. “This refusal to accept the stark reality that race matters is regrettable. As members of the judiciary tasked with intervening to carry out the guarantee of equal protection, we ought not sit back and wish away, rather than confront, the racial inequality that exists in our society.”

The court’s 6-2 decision upheld a voter-approved change to the Michigan state Constitution that prevents public colleges from using race as a factor in its admissions. As the AP noted, the ruling provides a boost for other education-related affirmative action bans in California and Washington state.

To read this article in its entirety visit The Huffington Post.

  • Michael Joiner

    Her and people like her are destroying America…

    • Cobolt Punch

      Yup, we’re all destroying your White America.

      • jh

        ignorant people like you are destroying America, perhaps you are not aware of what discrimination entails: poverty, poor schooling, crime etc

        • Dartmouth ’11

          I think your comment is limited. Race is highly interconnected to the things you listed as sources of discrimination. And its clear Cobolt Punch is acknowledging these things by his/her use of sarcasm, while Michael Joiner seems to imply America would be better off by ignoring them altogether.

          • Eric

            In all honesty, most the comments on here are limited and misguided. Racial hatred is a terrible subject that will never disappear because people are too busy pointing fingers than realizing the real problems behind all of this nonsense.

      • Gerge Wershington

        I personally believe we should spay and neuter idiots of all races. Care to be the first volunteer?

      • Sean Hall

        Then what will you do?

    • Dr. Claw

      Nothing about the Wall Street cabal that gambles away your money, the bankers that freely fund terrorists and drug cartels, the corporations who try to control what you consume and how you consume it, don’t pay taxes, but expect you to pay the majority of said taxes, nor the politicians who bend over backwards for all of the above.

      No, it’s simply a Hispanic woman who recognizes the faux-meritocracy in America. That’s what’s destroying America.

      • Asmodeus1971

        You have to realize his comment was the comment of a white male who only wants to protect what he has no matter the price on society.

        • ixsetf

          Ignoring someone’s view because they are white is no more valid than ignoring it because they are black or any other race, both are straw men.

          • Asmodeus1971

            Just so you know, I am white so this was not a racial comment, just stating that he is holding the line of most of his age group and race.

  • HippieChic

    You know what? Good. College admission should NOT be determined by race. I was turned away from LSU (I had an SAT score of 2100 and a high school GPA of 3.8) because I am white (and not a part of any sports team, club, sorority, etc). It just so happened that the ratio of races in the university wasn’t to par that year and they were being very exclusive as to whom they accepted. I am the least racist person you will ever meet but I believe that everyone deserves a fair chance in life.

    • CJtheRebel

      I don’t buy that for a second. I got into LSU with significant scholarship offers with comparable measurables.

      • Dartmouth ’11

        He probably lacks extra curriculars or graduated from an elite school which churns out individuals with similar scores. If you go to a high performing private school, scoring that high, in general, has more to do with your wealth than innate ability. That’s why college admissions offices use a comprehensive analysis to reduce this disparity. Other factors could be at play as well (whether he’s from within the state, his race, his geographic location, grade inflation etc).

        • Asmodeus1971

          Sorry but 2100 will get almost anyone in LSU unless LSU prefers to look at hte 1600 scale and you didn’t do well on the critical reading and math. I’m old so my SAT test was the 1600 scale. I scored a 1520.

          • Dartmouth ’11

            I’d agree with you except for the fact that taking his word for it, the score apparently doesn’t get everyone in. Either he’s lying (about his score or admissions decision) or my statement holds true (that his scores weren’t the primary issue with his admissions decision and that something else was at work, i.e. maybe he’s old).

            Regardless, AA and race based admissions likely had little to do with his rejection, especially with scores that high. The majority of Asians don’t score in the 2100 range (The Asian average is ~1650 compared to ~1576 for whites, ~1355 for Hispanics, and ~1278 for blacks). I’m sure plenty of individuals of all races were admitted with lower scores than those he claims. A 2100 SAT score places him in the 97th percentile.

    • Dartmouth ’11

      Then why aren’t you railing against legacies and SAT prep courses. Such are advantages bestowed on the wealthy. The SAT itself is highly correlated with wealth. It’s predictive value is highly controversial when study after study confirms that minorities whom tend to score a bit lower (for various reasons regardless of their college readiness or innate academic ability) on the SAT still graduate from colleges at elevated rates.

      And contrary to what your comment infers, the group that benefits the most from policies such as AA, are white women. Should gender be considered in Admission decisions? Judging by this case result, voters could and should remove gender as a classification from college apps, further limiting the large advancement women have achieved over the last few decades. On the flip side, if women’s scores improve a small margin, it could also impact male admissions rates. Should extra curricular activities or AP courses that aren’t even taught at inner city schools count? What about wealth? If we’re to make admissions the “fairest” of all, race and ones background, that oftentimes identifies the persistent structural difficulties one faces towards advancement in this unfair society, should be considered. Quite frankly race is a better predictor of success beyond college than any test score (IQ or SAT) and that’s why it should remain an important admissions factor. But if opportune “fairness” isn’t the goal, maybe admissions decisions should be reduced to a test score alone. Why not extend this aspect to employment as well, wouldn’t want those excluded aspects (race, network, wealth) presenting advantages in employment… Of course, under such a system your high school GPA would mean nothing (making high school scores effectively pointless), only your score on the LSU entrance exam would matter. I also wonder where those football, baseball, and basketball players, whom made the school nationally acclaimed, would go? Maybe a semi-pro league will arise, separating professional sports from academia at last?

      Another thing, unless you’re Asian, this decision won’t help you one bit. 4/5ths of the seats vacated by disenfranchised minorities are already estimated to be filled by Asians (as they were in California). This decision also only applies to colleges in Michigan, you’d still be rejected from LSU. And I doubt your SAT score and GPA were the reasons you weren’t accepted into LSU. It’s likely other factors were at play (such as the average scores at the school you attended, extracurriculars, etc) and even with this decision in place there’s no guarantee the seat wouldn’t be filled by an even more qualified formerly rejected student or that the student whom replaced you directly was a disenfranchised minority. In the Fisher vs University of Texas case, though she believed she was rejected due to the admission of students of color, UT released the reality that in fact plenty of white students with worse scores than she were accepted and she simply didn’t meet the stands of the university’s comprehensive admissions process (race is only a factor, in a complicated point system). There’s also no guarantees colleges won’t seek to change the admissions process to maintain their diversity. Some colleges (such as UT) have added 10% clauses which grant automatic admission to students in the top 10% of their class within the student’s state. Such policies actually reduce the effects of structural racism by granting admission to students from impoverished inner city schools even if their scores are relatively lower. Just food for thought.

      But the end result of this decision will further increase racial disparities in Michigan and may lead to a drastic shift in the admissions process if colleges seek to maintain diversity in their classrooms. Colleges have already begun accepting African elites, whom score as high as other predominately wealthy immigrant groups, to replace dwindling African American scores. This decision could increase these efforts as well.

      • Salvatore

        Two wrongs don’t make it right. There is no place for affirmative action in todays world. You know life isn’t fair by the elegant tirade you’ve written above. Get over it and fight for whats right without “special entitlements”. If you earn something on its own merit without affirmative impartiality it is then and only then that you win !

        • Dartmouth ’11

          Affirmative action isn’t wrong, it simply levels the playing field a bit. White women would’ve never been able to leave the “home” without the aid of AA policies and their effects on college and employment opportunities. The assumption that it’s wrong is based on a naive definition of “merit” with little basis in reality. If our objective methods to measure merit are subject to one’s social class, gender and environment, ignoring these circumstances when determining merit will deny plenty of qualified applicants a fair chance. You can’t judge a person whom starts with a leg up in life on the same level as someone whom faces adversity. In layman’s terms, a person born to a crack head mother whom scores a 1800 on the SAT with limited access to test prep and good schools, is way more impressive and way more resourceful than someone whom scores the same at a wealthy private school. I’d even say they have more “merit” and would likely graduate at a higher likelihood than the wealthier individual if granted adequate financial aid access to the same learning environment. But race-blind applications ignore this, they also ignore the impoverished inner city schools that are filled with a majority of black individuals, trapped in a system of oppression. Studies have confirmed that even taking income into consideration is inadequate to address the large disparity African Americans face alone, in access to good schools. African American students attend impoverished schools at rate incomparable to other races, and the results confirm this. For this very reason, college is rapidly becoming an institution for the wealthy due to an overemphasis on test scores / GPAs (rather than relative scores). Tons of blacks granted admission into universities are being drawn from predominately wealthy, foreign, African elites, rather than domestic impoverished African Americans. It seems colleges would rather accept the wealthy secs of each race, than provide a true equal opportunity to all; at least that’s what voters are making them do. It’s even more telling that legacies are still legal for consideration in Michigan, while something much more reasonable (race) is not.

          Unfortunately we live in a society where one’s race is highly correlated to their wealth, employment, criminal background and educational opportunities. So how is one meant to fight “Special entitlements” without access to equal education; which remains the strongest venue for rising out of poverty? How is a person in poverty whom attended a drastically underfunded school supposed to score the same as a wealthy private school elite? This isn’t a fairytale, the oppressed underdog doesn’t surmount the odds to trump the powers at bay. The playing field isn’t “equal” to begin with. There are many minorities whom are capable of succeeding, whom have “merit,” but are never given the environment or opportunities to display it. Sonia Sotomayor is a prime example of someone without the so called “merit,” who was granted an opportunity based on AA. She proves that standardized testing may not accurately portray a persons ability. She proves AA works. If a person can complete the work and graduate, what’s the problem?

          Of course you might counter that this problem can be solved without race, but I highly doubt those voting for these amendments have any intention of ever supporting policies that do so (i.e. adequately staffing and funding inner city schools, providing childcare, and better welfare services). Voters would rather see wealthy Asian students matriculate at disproportionate rates, than grant poor, disenfranchised black and Latino students, with relatively lower scores, “special consideration”. You may also state that race itself isn’t conclusive. Rather an applicant’s residential area, socioeconomic class and the quality of the school in which their scores were developed should replace this consideration to ensure racial equality. Here, I’d agree with you. I wouldn’t be surprised if future changes that occur in the admissions process mirror this sentiment. I’d even say such changes are inevitable and will address some of the discrimination poor whites and Asians face in admissions decisions. But don’t expect these changes to occur from voter initiatives, after all I doubt the wealthy will allow such policies to gain steam in their oligarchical political circles.

          The change will likely occur from colleges and their admissions offices. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michigan passes a 10% clause granting automatic acceptance for students in the top 10% of their school’s classes. These policies have been implemented in states such as Texas to reduce the disparate impact school funding has on individuals attending impoverished schools. Wealth may also be a factor school’s consider in their applications process. But the legacy system, which provides large financial incentives for cash strapped institutions, will likely never be fully eradicated. And athletes will always be welcome to earn their educational stipend on the field.

      • MCWAY

        Care to explain why Asians smoke these tests, while blacks and Hispanics don’t. BTW, I’m black, hardly from wealth or riches, and I smoked those standardized test. As a result, I got more full-ride scholarship offers than the valedictorian and salutatorian of my class.

        I told my kids that the ACT and SAT are (literally and figuratively) the money test. If you have a decent GPA and blow those out the water, you could have leprosy and get a full-ride to college.

        I didn’t have to apply for college; the colleges came to me. And, because they made me an offer I couldn’t refuse (and the campus was just a few hours from home), I chose………FAMU!!!!

        • Dartmouth ’11

          This chart should help answer your question:

          Asians have the highest median income and as I previously mentioned, the SAT is highly correlated with wealth.

          Another article on the topic with keen insight:

          As for why you did well, did you attend a good school? The vast majority of blacks do not. I’m black too, but I was very lucky to be raised in a safe, stable, middle class environment. The schools I attended were all good schools which prepared me for the SAT test. The college I ultimately attended was an Ivy (Dartmouth ’11). But even in my case, test preparation was an issue. My family couldn’t afford any test prep, so I took the test without any. Again I was lucky to score near the 90th percentile (99th for blacks), but I likely would’ve scored higher if I had the opportunity to take a test prep course. Most of my peers at Dartmouth took multiple courses, hence their higher SAT scores.

          • MCWAY

            Thanks for the chart. And, to answer your question, I did attend good schools. My mother sacrificed (often working two jobs) to keep me in private Christian school from 1st to 12th grade (except for a couple of years). I didn’t really do any test prep. I just went to class and found how we had some tests to take. I didn’t realize how valuable they were. I just did my thing and apparently I did well enough to become a National Merit/Achievement Semi-Finalist and later a Finalist.

          • Dartmouth ’11

            To give you some perspective about how unfairly good my high school was. There were at least 7 national merit scholars in my graduating class, and at least 4 Ivy league students (our valedictorian: Harvard, our salutatorian: Columbia, my twin sister and I: Dartmouth). One of my college buddies has a mother whom works in the admissions office at John Hopkins and his mother knew our school by name. And this was a suburban public school about 30 minutes from some of the worst schools in central Texas. I’m not saying we didn’t work hard, but some people just never get a chance to learn in such an environment. So it’s no surprise if they don’t score as high.

  • Jono

    So is she saying that women aren’t smart enough to get into college on their own, or that Hispanics aren’t?

    • Yvette Jones Flounoy

      That is not what she is saying at all. You cannot legislate love into the hearts of men but what we can do is legislate fairness and equal treatment as far as the law will allow. Unfortunately, racial and sexist inequities and disparity are still very present in our society, We don’t like talking about it because it is a very uncomfortable conversation but the conversation and facing of fact is very necessary,,,

      • Sean Hall

        But fairness and equal treatment is exactly what is happening here. The minority students are demanding special treatment.

        • RacistBigotJK

          Mainly cause without such special treatment they’d be facing bias from admissions simply for the color of their skin, or for their gender. It sucks, but it’s a part of life. Truth be told though, I’m glad it’s banned. Minorities don’t need special treatment, they should struggle for every inch they get. Bastards don’t deserve equality. They should have just been born a white male middle class.

          • Sean Hall

            I just spent a week hospitalized at the VA. The entire hospital staff is probably around 75% black. According to your logic I should have gotten worse treatment.

          • Sean Hall

            What if the administrator was a minority? Would whites be facing bias?

      • Eric

        The facts….does anyone even know what that is? I am sorry, but people of my generation are not nearly as race hating as the older generation. There will always be racial tension because people just simply refuse to let it go. If you keep the coals going on subjects like this, do you really think they are ever going to disappear? Really think hard on that. Throwing race around like a safety net is only making it worse. If you are white, you are hated for things you didn’t even do, if you are black… are hated because of the hate your race has spewed at others in response….if you are Mexican, you are generalized because of the actions of the insane in your country. There is literally no winning until people realize that we are not guilty for the sins of others in our race or the sins of our fathers. When people can realize that the skin color isn’t what is spewing the hate, rather than individuals….then the world will be on the right track. Though, it seems that about 80% of the populace of the world would rather spend all its time on racial tension, nationalism, and etc rather than forward progression of the human race as a whole. It is really tragic in all honesty.

    • Brian_R_Allen

      Yes. But – twice a day – even broken clocks are “right.”

    • Sean Hall

      And that they are inferior and need a push thru life. Liberal whites treat minorities like lost children at a supermarket. Its condescending and if was a minority I would tell them to go F themselves and I don’t need their pity.

  • vivian

    Excuse me, But didn’t judge thomas get use of affirmative action /

    • Sean Hall

      Only until they found out he was a Conservative

      • Sean Hall

        A Black guy who worked like crazy to get where he was and always fought for equal rights and even married a white woman. Yet, because he held conservative values they found some woman who said he said “it looks like theres a pubic hair on my coca-cola” decades earlier, (oh the horror) and tried to destroy him. AA has never been about equality and fairness. Its political dogma.

  • Brownguy

    As a Brown Mexican-American man, I always despised affirmative action. What? Us darker folks can’t compete on a level playing field against whites and Asians because we’re too stupid? So now we need to tilt the field in our favor through preferences and quotas because we are too dumb to compete on our own? Bollocks. I’m about to obtain my M.S. in Mathematics. That’s a subject you cannot feign ability in. I got it in because I was good.

    • Sean Hall

      Someone who gets it.

      • Brian

        None of you get it. When people re allowed
        breaks despite their inferior grades because of legacy standards how does one
        compete with that? White people started 2 American wars over unequal
        standards allowed for the wealthy and affluent and denied to working class and
        poorer Whites. It is okay when White folks are fighting for a level playing
        field but when it is a brown skin everyone is an armchair attorney/philosopher
        about why White folks don’t need to play fairly. You all need to stop these
        race-related fairy tales wishes and accept the truth of Jim Crow traditions in America. Then
        again you don’t have to, it won’t stop us from rising above your inferiority
        complexes and or eagerness to assimilate.

        • Sean Hall

          All nations have had wars over unequal standards allowed for the wealthy and affluent and denied to working class. I challenge you to find race, religion, or culture who hasn’t dealt with that. The system is unfair and harmful to minorities. It also hurts the workforce when inferior people get jobs in hi-tech sectors, medical, and so on. This is why the Chinese and India students are having a field day here getting jobs. I can guarantee you those nations don’t have AA programs. “Jim Crow”, seriously now, come on. Actually it will stop minorities from rising above. Before the 1964 CRA, minorities were starting to do very well. They were getting into military academies, medical schools, etc. The 1964 CRA came along and destroyed all that and created the welfare state which has done incredible amounts of damage to not only the wealth and educations of minorities, but also their psyches.

    • ixsetf

      I’ve always seen affirmative action as guilty of the same generalizations that cause racism. It has nothing to do with the color of your skin, it’s your skills and educational opportunities which determine the likelihood of you getting into college. If we correct for the educational opportunities of the applicants, all that’s left is their skills, and that should be enough to ensure diversity. But instead of correcting for opportunity we correct for skin color. Two things which, while unfortunately correlated, are fundamentally different. Because of this difference there will always exist groups which unfairly benefit and lose out with affirmative action. If you are a minority with excellent opportunities, you will require fewer skills than the majority of the population to gain a position of power, and if you are a member of the racial majority who has had poor opportunities, you will require much higher skills than the majority of the population.

      Not to mention, removing affirmative action policies from colleges has not always harmed minority admission rates. In California, it turned out that affirmative action was reducing the rates of Asian American students who enrolled in the college. I don’t think this is something that should result from something that was designed to protect the rights of racial minorities.

  • Sean Hall

    “Affirmative action opened doors in my life” Justice Sotomayor. No, it put someone more deserving behind the 8 ball. This is like saying, easily picked windows have made life better for house burglars. People lose when they are bestowed merit they have not earned.

    • Brian

      Explain how this bullsh#t justifies legacy guys like Bush Jr getting into YALE with C avergaes while minorities with A averages are denied? Take that crap elsewhere.

      • Salvatore

        So there were other minorities other than AfroAmericans denied entry because of Bush, Jr. There were Asians, Hispanic minorities too. Shame on him. I bet there were even other Whites and Caucasians that had better grades too. In fact probably more of them lost a chance to go to Yale because of him since most applicants to Yale are of Caucasian heritage. Stop complaining and earn something on its own merit !

      • MCWAY

        So, this really isn’t about fairness or getting minorities the best crack at an education. It’s about delusions of vengeance on white people for past wrongs?

        • Brian_R_Allen

          …. It’s about delusions of vengeance on white people for “past wrongs” …?

          Delusions, indeed!

          Meanwhile my last (“white”) slave ancestor died, in Australia, in the late 1930s. Having been labeled a “felon” and “transported” there by the bloody British (who enslaved and similarly “transported” hundreds of thousands of mostly Celt “whites,” long after very publicly giving up on their with-the-Arabs joint venture African Slave Trade.

          So look out, you Limey basta*ds, if our vengeance is ever stirred!

  • sherri k

    Get into college on your own merits, why should you be allowed to go and get in just because you’re a minority. Really does that make you proud that hey I get to go to college because I’m black or because I’m a woman even tho i’m dumber then dirt. White people who are dumber then dirt don’t get that special treatment. Neither should anyone else. If you can’t pass the Sat and Act and you can’t keep your grades up in high school, then you shouldn’t be . given special treatment because you’re a minority

    • B

      You really should stay quiet f you don’t know the history of the people who have needed a balance in college entrance selections. NO ONE who fails the ACT/SAT is even a consideration. Where did ou dream up that idiotic bullsh#t? Factoring race in helps to balance the good old boy, legacy standard. Bush Jr got into Yale with a C average when Blacks and Latinos with A avergaes where rejected. Pick another argument to add your wholey inadequate opinion to.

      • Brian_R_Allen

        …. George Walker Bush was admitted to Yale with a C average when Blacks and Latinos with A avergaes where rejected ….

        Care to back that defamitory hyperbole with a little proof? To name even one of the A-Average candidates so discriminated against?

        • Sean Hall

          Exactly, it’s Ad-homnem nonsense that people spew without doing an ounce of research.

      • MCWAY

        And? You don’t justify bad conduct with more bad conduct.

        Otherwise, you feed into the narrative that affirmative action is more about punishing white people vs. helping black people. Wrong is wrong, regardless of whether you’re a descendant of the alleged oppressors or the allegedly oppressed.

    • Chris B

      People who cannot tell the difference between “then” and “than” should probably not be the ones to decide who should go to college.

  • Dr. Claw

    The anti-affirimative action crowd are one in solidarity with institutional racism, the silent-but-deadly structure that created affirmative action in the first place. They are also those who foolishly believe the U.S. is a meritocracy, which it is not. It is highly naive to believe that this decision will revert the U.S. to a meritocracy, rather it will revert the U.S. to a place where various institutes can be “invisibly racist” as they please without retribution under the guise of being impartial.

    And please, spare me your “bootstraps” stories about how you made it despite X-Y-Z. That’s more fuel for the neocon and neoliberal types who wish to push us further into an oligarchy.

    • John

      You really should clarify that you mean non-Asian racial minorities. Because Asians sure don’t benefit much from Affirmative action, in fact by all accounts it works against us. But yes, we are still racial minorities.

      • MCWAY

        The reasons why Asians kick butt on those standardized tests and don’t need affirmative action is because they (unlike black and Hispanics) have learned long ago that learning the dominant white culture does not equate to abandoning your own culture.

        They know they have to do this to succeed and racism is no excuse. They endure racism and bigotry (from blacks and Hispanics, as well as whites); but they preserve and overcome.
        When black people learn to do this, instead of blubbering about affirmative action, business will pick up in our community. If you can’t get into Michigan, deal with it and get your education somewhere else (Hint: HBCUs!!!).

        • Dr. Claw

          Psst: casting Asians as the “model minority” is racist
          Psst: Asians do have the same issues with racism and often have a hard time overcoming it
          Psst: GTFOH

      • Dr. Claw

        I don’t need to clarify anything. All minorities (racial, religious, sexual) are subject to the discrimination of the institution

  • Robert Nather

    One cannot have a discussion about racism with the threat of being called a racist for point out truths. To believe race matters is racist. If Dr King’s dream is to be kept alive it has to be about the quality of character, not the color of skin.

  • Lloyd Fafanuten Bartholemew

    The state says “Race and ethnicity cannot be used in college admissions.”

    State labeled as racist.

    I love logic.

  • Jeffrey Rogers

    Can this chick not READ? Her job is to interpret the Constitution not write a new one.

    • John Franci

      Interpretation of the Equal Protection clause dumbass

      • Jeffrey Rogers

        Equal mean Equal…..DUMBASS.

        The vote was 6-2. Not even down party lines.

        Again, because you are a DUMBASS, there is no REQUIREMENT for affirmative action in the Constitution.

        educated yourself DUMBASS. And by educate, I mean at a NON LIBERALLY BIASED institution.

  • Connor Halsell

    Why would race be a factor in college admissions? That’s ridiculous. It should be based on grades, SAT scores, extracurricular activities, etc. If you can’t get in based on that but still have the ambition then go to a 2-year school, show that you’re serious, and then transfer. How is this a race issue?

    • Kriza Belle

      Race shouldn’t be a factor in college admissions, but consider history and how race was a factor used to PREVENT people from receiving quality education, education at all, or even basic human rights (e.g., “White” and “Colored” bathrooms, restaurants with signs reading, “Absolutely no Colored/Filipino/Japs allowed,” voting rights, etc.). Many minorities were not able to receive a higher level of education (which leads to more career possibilities). It wasn’t because of merit, but because they were not allowed to have one, and its effects can be seen throughout the generations.

      Think of a relay race, but one team is giving a head start. When team 2 is finally able to begin the race, the first team member is faced with numerous obstacles that slow or even stop him (or her) from continuing the race. As each team member passes the baton to the next runner (aka, the next generation), there are less obstacles. However, even though the race now appears to be fair, team 2 is still far behind because of the unfairness at the beginning.

      I understand the flaws of affirmative action, but I also know affirmative action is intended to promote opportunities for minorities, to level a playing field that, for generations, wasn’t set up fairly in the first place.

  • Jimbo Jones

    The spick hates whitey and is shameless about it.

  • Brian_R_Allen

    Must make a point from now on, every morning, upon awakening, to call that fat failed ambulance chaser and ask her what to fatuously feel today. (No point asking what to think. Fascist Leftards cannot think)

    • John Franci

      Fascist and Left lol…kinda hard to be that. Fascism is extreme right.

      • Realtalk

        I’m not exactly sure where you learned that. Fascist: “a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition”

        • Actually…

          You just confirmed his point.

      • Brian_R_Allen

        Not sure where you’re sitting but if fascism appears to your right, you’re of the extremely-far left! Fascism is – according to Benito Mussolini, who invented it in its modern form, “modified Marxism.” And – according to Hitler’s German National SOCIALIST Workers’ Party – even the form of socialism called Nazism is (only slightly) modified fascism.

        Reality is that totalitarianism is totalitarianism and is so by whichever: — communism, islamism, shintoism, imperialism, merchantilism, statism, Marxism, Maoism, being a “Democrat,” Leninism, Hitlerism, Pol-Pot-ism, fascism, Franklin-Delano-Rooseveltism, Atleeism — and so on: — of its scores of names — its going by today.

  • Pete

    Chicago has a high percentage of African Americans than whites. As a white person, should I now qualify for affirmative action in Chicago?


  • John Franci

    Funny how anti-affirmative action people say “earn something on your own merit” but then go berserk at the risk of higher competition due to immigration…although most immigration is for low paying jobs no one wants to do. But hey “earn something on your own merit” get a fucking education and rise above the competition instead of bitching about immigration.

    • Frank

      the problem with your illogical argument is that illegal and sometime legal immigrants are hired off the books for well under minimum wage where a person born in america would do the same job for a fair wage.

    • ctothed

      I’m anti-affirmative action and my issue with immigration is just that if you legalize the illegal immigrants in the country and you are saying that they are doing the low paying jobs that no one wants, why do you think they are in those jobs? Because they are illegal? Once they are legal, what makes you think they would be staying in those jobs? Who would now be working those jobs?

    • MCWAY

      People don’t go berserk because of immigration; they go berserk when illegal aliens break our laws and steal jobs from US citizens and legal aliens.

      My family members immigrated here legally from Jamaica. They had to play by the rules. Why should illegals get rewarded simply by sneaking across the border, hiding out without getting caught long enough to have some babies, and get effectively awarded with citizenship and jobs?

  • Realtalk

    But I CAN wish away government-enforced inequality. Sorry, Sotomayor.

  • Patrick Bryan Shewtzuk

    You can’t wish it away but apparently you can force it upon people. How about this. Instead of forcing affirmative action on anyone, give the best man the job. Why should we give someone a job to be equal if they aren’t best suited for that job? Would you rather have an equal amount of color on a fire truck or a bunch of guys who are the best of the best?

    • Sabastina

      The problem with your suggestion is that racism still exists to a degree that employers are not willing to hire fairly. It’s really sad that people are so racist that they would NOT choose the person who will best serve their own company! Pathetic in all respects

  • Jeffrey Rogers

    She wasted a lot of ink. She could have just said WHITEY SUCKS and be done with it.

  • Mark Caswell

    excuse me if I don’t understand what this means…
    (allowing Michigan voters to change “the basic rules of the political process …) but isn’t the way to change political process through VOTING ON IT ?? I thought that was the way is was supposed to be done. I’m sorry if she doesn’t like the outcome, but there are always two sides,( at least) and someone will be disappointed.

  • sabastina

    It’s sad that racism still exists to such a degree that employers are not willing to hire the best person for the job regardless of skin color–even if the employer IS racist. It’s really sad that people are so racist that they would NOT choose the person who will best serve their own company!

    Unfortunately, most white Americans do not understand repression, or the negative effects that are caused by it. Affirmative action was never actually intended to work, or they would have created a model that prevents people from reverse discrimination…we need to come up with a REAL program that helps non-white minorities before it is too late.

    • George Harvard

      I understand discrimination…..I was threatened to be fired because of my religion and my ethnicity…..I was physically thrown out of a house of a girl I had asked for a date because of my religion and my ethnicity…..I was called a gangster because of my ethnicity…….and SABASTINA you say we don’t know what discrimination is????

  • George Harvard

    How long are we going to hear about this bullshit “disadvantaged”????….does this gon on for centuries, instead of decades????

    • barkleydog

      I’m guessing you didn’t GO to Harvard. If the situation with Donald Sterling didn’t prove to you that racism is still a very big problem in this country, it’s because you are wearing the blinders of racism yourself. Is “disadvantaged” going to go on for centuries? Maybe, but I hope not. After all, slavery went on for centuries–and then, after the Civil War, it was another century before the Civil Rights Act was passed. Unfortunately, the bigots in this country (who have no respect for the rule of law) fought it tooth and nail, and some of that reprehensible behavior continues to this day. Don’t blame minorities for your obvious failure to take advantage of the opportunities you had. That’s your own damn fault. As for “disadvantaged,” a problem that was centuries in the making will not be solved in a matter of decades. Racism is so ingrained in our culture, it’s going to take a long time to root it out and destroy it. Ironically, it’s deep thinkers such as yourself who are forever slowing that process down.

      • George Harvard

        Yes, and exactly what is your solution to remedy this problem of “racism”.

  • barkleydog

    It’s so interesting that the Supreme Court acted as they did when they did. I mean really, Donald Sterling just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that racism is no longer an issue in this country! (Yes, that’s sarcasm.) The Court is so biased and out-of-touch, most of the justices have no clue as to what real life is like–or they just don’t care. Here’s hoping the dinosaurs either retire or die before they do any more damage.