Pastor Jamal Bryant On Controversial Line In Sermon


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Today On the Tom Joyner Morning Show: Roland Martin talks to Pastor Jamal D. Bryant after a controversial line in a sermon he preached a month ago, has caught wind and offended many.

Titled “I’m My Enemies Worst Nightmare: Part 1″,  Bryant references singer Chris Brown popular song “Loyal” and recites the songs chorus, ‘these hoes ain’t loyal’ in the pulpit.

“I’m shocked because out of 29 minutes I affirm women and their dreams and the influence they have on their men…I made a comment referencing a song by Chris Brown that has become the proverbial fly in the soup ,” Bryant says.

Despite the backlash, Pastor Bryant still feels as if we all have to be on the same page regarding the offensive word.

“If the h-word is bad for our young girls in church, then is has to be a consistency. It’s got to be bad in music we play,” he continues.

  • Kathy L Furlow

    Pastor Bryant go back to the cross. Jesus told Peter before the clock strikes thrice you will deny me twice.It wasn’t just Peter sayin, “I don’t know NO JESUS” it was his language, his choice of words. Peter cussed. Preachers who cuss deny that they even know Jesus, because he changes your tongue, he teaches accountability and responsibility. We are not called to be consistent with the world, we are set apart. We are in the world, but not of it. Go back to the cross, do your first works over again. Get grounded in the word. God help your people. People remember every preacher was not sent, some just went. What your saying is you can cuss if it relatable to a meanigful topic. REALLY! . And stop trying to make people feel good they should know they are good. How about empowering some men? How many of them in church? Find out how to save some brothers!!! Jesus didn’t reference Judas as a…. ..and clearly loyalty was broken . Sad.com Every one who says Lord Lord is not of God. The gift works without repentance. Understand anyone can preach! Preach good, preach scripture but these are workers of iniquity. Their thinking, their ministry, their words not Christ. Not according sound doctrine.

  • disqus_lUxCXG98NB

    Context is the issue…Godly is the concern for me!

  • ilivebyfacts

    And believe it or not I agree with what he said. The sad part is IT IS NOT.
    So many of our people are okay with this being pumped into our head daily and our kids and complain NOT. But yet he says the same phrase and suddenly the complaints coming ringing in. So yes I agree with what he says on that level. Where were all of these people all of these years with the music and TV that does the same thing????? WHERE???

    Now… what I DO NOT agree with is… HIS USE. PERIOD.
    As a minister/pastor he should know this James 3:1

    Pastor… YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
    And this is the reason you cannot honestly believe you or anyone else is getting through anyone by joining their actions.

    Even the gentleman on Thursday’s show did not hang black men with the KKK to revert various members. He didn’t talk their talk. He talked HIS talk.

    So people stop lying to yourselves and thinking you are getting saved or even a message that transforms YOUR life. Instead you are getting ENTERTAINED and it is based on someone ELSE you want transformed while IGNORING your faults.

    Peace!

  • Soldier4Christ

    Did he really compare the church to the world? I’m really concerned about his soul. Sometimes we go about establishing our own righteousness and justifying our wrong doing. Very close to having a reprobated mind. It’s not ok for the world nor the church to reference women in such a way, but we as the church should be an EXAMPLE to the world. “Come out from among them and be ye separated.” We’re in the world, but not of the world. We can’t be like them and set examples for them at the same time. Stop preaching for popularity and preach for souls. How many people gave their life to God after you preached that message?

  • Killer Truck

    God

  • Yolanda Shelton

    There’s no justification for using that word in the Lord’s house, it’s just not necessary…..I feel he’s just looking for media attention or any attention for that matter to speak in the house of the Lord this way and feels as though he has a logical explanation to back it up…..he doesn’t have one! You can get your point across to a congregation without using profanity in church……your congregation is intelligent enough to understand your logic in another way.

  • Tommy Anderson

    But real talk used to have morals and character to it back in the day, I know because I been preaching for 40 years to small and very large groups of people it’s all about what you’ve been taught and your discernment and judgment from GOD, the real judge. Can we stop trying to make this world fit our mess. Just be about his Way, his Will, his Word and his Worship and He Will Work it out for you. That’ s the GOD I know.

  • D-Dub

    And here we have the sensitivity pop up but shows the hypocrisy not only in the church but also in society. People really need to get it straight. We’re ready to crucify but not be judged. The only reason that this is blown out of control is because a pastor said it. How is it that no one crucified Mayweather for saying the same line? Hypocrites, one and all!!

    • David Jones

      R u stoned or just plain stupid? Do you really think the standards are the same for a man of God and a professional boxer.

      • D-Dub

        Oh, so you want a Christianity that won’t offend you or your senses about what is acceptable and not appropriate? God uses men with their gifts. You aren’t going to tell me that biblical characters didn’t curse, are you? You’re not going to tell me that people in biblical times didn’t get offended, are you? When the message is swallowed up because of an offense, yes, I’m going to call those offended hypocrites.

        • David Jones

          You ask do I want a Christianity that won’t offend me? Not a Christian, but as a spiritual person I would say yes a pastor shouldn’t offend people.
          Do you think Bryant didn’t know he would offend people before he made the comment?
          And if he is a man of God and didn’t do anything wrong then why is he apologizing?

        • David Jones

          You ask do I want a Christianity that won’t offend me?

          I would say yes I don’t want a pastor to ‘knowingly’ offend me with vulgar language when there are so many other respectful words he can use to make the same point.

          What–you think Bryant didn’t know he would offend and disrespect the women of that church before he made that comment?

          And if he is a man of God and didn’t do anything wrong then why is he apologizing?

          Two simple questions–shouldn’t be hard to answer.

          • D-Dub

            You may need to do some studying because Jesus was consistently offending people. He had people walk away from Him through misunderstanding and being offended at what they thought He was insinuating. He’s apologizing because pop culture has pressured him into doing that. I believe he is a man of God but what does a man of God care for what society or culture thinks? The bible uses the word ‘whore’ in various ways so the identification is clear. Shouldn’t the better question become to those who know they’re not such, why an uproar? There is an ironic dynamic of tolerance at work in the church.

          • David Jones

            You only answered one question.

          • D-Dub

            No, I answered both. Perhaps if you read it with the intent to understand my point rather than reinforce your own, you would see that I did.

          • David Jones

            You answered why he apologized. Where did you answer if he knew he would disrespect those women before he made the statement? Feel free to copy and paste the answer, shouldn’t be too hard if you already answered.

          • D-Dub

            I answered that ‘whore’ is used in various ways in the bible. Isn’t it ironic that someone using that word, in today’s terminology, would become offended at its usage? Along that same line, women who know that they are not whores need not be offended. If they are, the pastor has to take heed to preach the WORD. That is the end all of the conversation. The church isn’t to be practicing tolerance but to live the life given to them IN THE KNOWLEDGE that that WORD is going to divide, injure and hurt people’s feelings.

          • David Jones

            LOL..I see you like to dance around the questions without giving a definitive answer. My specific question asked if Bryant knew he was disrespecting the women of his church before he made that comment. It’s a yes or no answer. To say whore is used in various ways in the bible doesn’t answer the question on if Bryant knew what he was doing. I didn’t ask you how the word is used, why people are offended, who shouldn’t be offended, or if the church should practice tolerance. If you don’t wish or cannot answer the question, say it.

          • D-Dub

            You want me to answer a question based upon that man’s thinking?? Are you serious? He admitted that he didn’t know it would be that offensive so your asking me is a moot point. My point was that he shouldn’t care if people get offended at his preaching. That is the biblical formula.

          • David Jones

            That’s your problem with reading comprehension, you’e so bent on giving your opinion that you cannot answer the question. Do I want you to answer a question on his thinking? YES. Isn’t that what you were doing in your previous post–thinking why Bryant did something? These are your words in a previous post: [And he’s on public radio apologizing because people took offense.] How do you know that to be true? I pose the same question to you that you posed to me to avoid answering the question. [How can you know what that man was thinking?] So why are you now having a problem when it comes to his thinking? LOL Then you want to answer the question about what Bryant said, the question was did YOU think Bryant knew his comment would disrespect those women before he said it. Never asked you about what Bryant said.

          • D-Dub

            No, that was actually exactly what you asked. It’s pointless to keep going around the issue with you. Be offended and hurt that a pastor said Hoe. There is much more that’s going to offend you soon enough.

          • David Jones

            Sure it is, too bad you cannot erase the truth. Keep defending a pimp pastor for knowingly saying something that he knew was wrong and would be disrespectful to women. If you would think before opening your mouth you would know when Bryant said [before making his comment], ‘old saints forgive me’, common sense would tell you he knew his comment would offend and disrespect the women in the church. Therefore he knew exactly what he was doing before he said it because the last time I checked people only apologize before saying something when they know they’re about to say something wrong. I thought the women were easily manipulated by these pimps in the pulpit. Never forget, you’re in the group of people who are fooled some of the times. Bye sycophant, you’re right it’s pointless….

  • isome

    No idiot… secular music and a sermon from the pulpit are two different venues for messages. That’s a false equivalency.

  • geesjunk

    Judge not that he not be judged. And how many of you heard the sermon? What context was it used? If you use it in the streets, God hears it. So why not complain about it’s use ANYWHERE? Did it cause someone to turn away from God?

    I think there are more important things we need to be concerned about. Good Will convict him. Stop trying to put God in your judgmental box because He won’t stay there.

    • TrollBaby

      I listened to the sermon and it was trifiling. Tolerating hood trash is one of the main things keeping the black race down. Yes we should be judging this negro because he is not fit to be leading black people. He is a con man. A grifter. A false prophet.

      • David Jones

        Ouch…but you speak the truth. These pimps in the pulpit have been destroying the black community since slavery.

  • T. Wilson

    I am amazed at the carnality, immaturity, and lack of accountability that many leaders and laity are seemingly mired in. Jamaal should not have made the statement that way. I was just in the barber shop two days ago and heard the Chris Brown song for the first time in my life as it was being played on the radio. Interestingly enough because it was on the radio the explicit lyrics were changed to “These GIRLS ain’t loyal”. This is the same adjustment Jamaal should have made since he was preaching from the PULPIT which is a sacred and holy place. Every christian who defends this obscene, profane, and vulgar language being used in the church needs to be renewed in the spirit of his / her mind and make the clear decision to NOT be conformed to the world. I am TIRED of saints responding to bad behavior that goes public and viral by taking the disposition of not judging. When it’s out in the public forum every and anybody has the right to hold it to the established standard. In this case, this is a preacher of the gospel, preaching from the pulpit using inappropriate language. He needs to apologize for HIS bad judgement and not defend it. It was inappropriate – PERIOD! To try to justify what he did by comparing it to the obscenity that is in the streets, in the media, or in any other secular space is irrelevant. We, The Church, are NOT the world and HOLINESS in our communication is what the scripture requires. So PLEASE saints, stir up your pure minds and quit defending and supporting behavior that is completely counter to scripture. What Jamaal has done is simply another example of “the spirit of the world” pervading the church and the pews are too full of immature, dull of hearing, unconsecrated groupies who live for sound bites and taglines rather than the unadulterated word of God being rightly divided to hold these narcissistic personalities to the established protocol. It’s Unacceptable, Unbelievable, and before I take any of it back I will add more to it. Just a whole bunch of uncircumcised Phillistines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lord Please help your church in Jesus’ name???

  • http://luvsiesous.com/ el_guero2000

    Preach it brother! Tell the people in church that the world is full of evil.

    Wayne
    Luvsiesous.com

    • David Jones

      Don’t forget to tell them while in church they’re listening to E Vil and sitting in H #ll. Yeah preach it brother….

  • Anonymous1

    I think the good pastor has it backwards. The church is held to a higher standard than popular culture. The one purports to be eternal; the other changes almost constantly.

  • MARIE

    “Being real” does not mean being vulgar, overly ostentatious, obstreperous, and crass.

    What this Jamal Bryant guy did is a common rhetorical and communications tactic designed to generate emotional reaction that draws association and affiliation to himself.

    It was no surprise to me something like this coming from Jamal Bryant. He is an opportunist orator concerned with building his celebrity. He is not as much a pastor as he is a brand.

    I don’t go to church and don’t consider myself a Christian but I know enough about the Bible and the nature of being a Christian to say that the BASIS of fellowship among believers is supposed to be their IDENTIFICATION WITH the person of Christ not with popular culture, which, by the standards of that faith and several others, is ungodly.

    The question is this: when the “Man of God” is delivering the “Word of God”, shouldn’t his phrasing and word choice be characteristic of a separation from all the things that “The World” celebrates and is high on or entertained by? Can you imagine God repeating and co-signing on what Chris Brown said? If Christians wouldn’t be in agreement with Chris Brown’s presentation, why would they resonate with and rejoice over an adaption of that presentation.

    Jamal Bryant, as a person, has shown that he is at least extremely egotistical and immature, concerned with gaining social points and validation for his cleverness.

    Is it in the spirit of Christ-likeness to refer to whomever is not on board with whatever God (supposedly) is doing in your life or wants for your life or that you are trying to achieve to glorify God, to refer to them as hoes?

    People like him assume and rise in positions like pastor and then do things like this because they know that Black People on the whole have a history and pathology of not creating and enforcing boundaries and pulling their chain if they do something inappropriate, distasteful or damaging.

    Isn’t this that same guy who told his congregation of predominantly Black Women, in the wake of the self-inflicted scandal regarding his multiple extramarital adulterous liaisons within his congregation, some of which resulted in outside pregnancies, that they have no right to expect him to behave with some moral erectitude and self-control, be an example–the whole “Don’t judge me” thing? I mean he used a lot of metaphor, Christian-ese, and spiritual gibberish to do it, but he basically did the same thing Swaggart did after he demonstrated he is unqualified to lead in that capacity when he said, “The Lord told me to tell you it’s none of your business”.

    What a lot of people, especially BW, fail to realize and pattern their conduct according to is the fact that Bryant is producing and selling a product, and as they consume his product they always have the right to place demand on him to elevate the quality of that product or not support it at all. His deflecting the discussion away from himself and his actions was shady and indicative of the immaturity I spoke about earlier, but he brings up a prime example in how BP have failed to shut down that nasty, destructive Hip Hop. By directing attention away from his choice of words and effectively putting himself in a position to, as a leader, call people to action to take issue with the music–did you see that, did you see how he did that? It’s a typical tactic used by people who speak for a living primarily politicians (and I saw in his bio that he is a political scientist).

    The relationship with the Black Church predominantly populated by BW often mirrors the relationships that BW have in romantic relationships with no-good men and how they continue to absorb and “forgive” that behavior. What BW Christians need to understand is that “judging” someone and looking at their behavior and comparing it to a standard and then determining that that behavior is unacceptable is not the same as condemning someone, which is a power that only God actually has. Forgiving someone DOES NOT MEAN that the forgiven gets necessarily restored back to the place of privilege and access previously enjoyed.

  • MARIE

    “Being real” does not mean being vulgar, overly ostentatious, obstreperous, and crass.

    What this Jamal Bryant guy did is a common rhetorical and communications tactic designed to generate emotional reaction that draws association and affiliation to himself.

    It was no surprise to me something like this coming from Jamal Bryant. He is an opportunist orator concerned with building his celebrity. He is not as much a pastor as he is a brand.

    I don’t go to church and don’t consider myself a Christian but I know enough about the Bible and the nature of being a Christian to say that the BASIS of fellowship among believers is supposed to be their IDENTIFICATION WITH the person of Christ not with popular culture, which, by the standards of that faith and several others, is ungodly.

    The question is this: when the “Man of God” is delivering the “Word of God”, shouldn’t his phrasing and word choice be characteristic of a separation from all the things that “The World” celebrates and is high on or entertained by? Can you imagine God repeating and co-signing on what Chris Brown said? If Christians wouldn’t be in agreement with Chris Brown’s presentation, why would they resonate with and rejoice over an adaption of that presentation.

    Jamal Bryant, as a person, has shown that he is at least extremely egotistical and immature, concerned with gaining social points and validation for his cleverness.

    Is it in the spirit of Christ-likeness to refer to whomever is not on board with whatever God (supposedly) is doing in your life or wants for your life or that you are trying to achieve to glorify God, to refer to them as hoes?

    People like him assume and rise in positions like pastor and then do things like this because they know that Black People on the whole have a history and pathology of not creating and enforcing boundaries and pulling their chain if they do something inappropriate, distasteful or damaging.

    Isn’t this that same guy who told his congregation of predominantly Black Women, in the wake of the self-inflicted scandal regarding his multiple extramarital adulterous liaisons within his congregation, some of which resulted in outside pregnancies, that they have no right to expect him to behave with some moral erectitude and self-control, be an example–the whole “Don’t judge me” thing? I mean he used a lot of metaphor, Christian-ese, and spiritual gibberish to do it, but he basically did the same thing Swaggart did after he demonstrated he is unqualified to lead in that capacity when he said, “The Lord told me to tell you it’s none of your business”.

    What a lot of people, especially BW, fail to realize and pattern their conduct according to is the fact that Bryant is producing and selling a product, and as they consume his product they always have the right to place demand on him to elevate the quality of that product or not support it at all. His deflecting the discussion away from himself and his actions was shady and indicative of the immaturity I spoke about earlier, but he brings up a prime example in how BP have failed to shut down that nasty, destructive Hip Hop. By directing attention away from his choice of words and effectively putting himself in a position to, as a leader, call people to action to take issue with the music–did you see that, did you see how he did that? It’s a typical tactic used by people who speak for a living primarily politicians (and I saw in his bio that he is a political scientist).

    The relationship with the Black Church predominantly populated by BW often mirrors the relationships that BW have in romantic relationships with no-good men and how they continue to absorb and “forgive” that behavior. What BW Christians need to understand is that “judging” someone and looking at their behavior and comparing it to a standard and then determining that that behavior is unacceptable is not the same as condemning someone, which is a power that only God actually has. Forgiving someone DOES NOT MEAN that the forgiven gets necessarily restored back to the place of privilege and access previously enjoyed.

  • Rico Jones

    Unfortunately Chris Brown seems to have more influence on him – than he has on Chris Brown. #SAD

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